- 976dds bad board flop us, start with a check.
- ip checks back - now we can start piling money in. if he shoves we are snapping it
- ip calls 4s turn, river 5d - it's a rough one. our hand is prob x/f
- ip bets b50, we fold, he shows AJss bluff (spades obv most likely combo to take his line)
[note to myself - some 200nl regs capable of running this bluff]
https://youtu.be/m7KzTkhGR6I?si=PUxfhJsoixtI9oo9
check out the description to the video 🔥
Good flop x Bad Turn Card = Bet Rarely & Large:
3 high-level board archetypes:
Uri:
1/2 game , $20 splash pot
https://members.upswingpoker.com/courses/drills-preflop-ranges/lessons/drilling-with-lucid-poker/
somehow skipped this vid
3:00 timestamp : how close in EV lot of the post-flop actions run (!)
** EV loss is so tiny - any other factor (dynamics / image / player you feel (or not feel) comfortable playing against) easily outweighs it
6:20 timestamp : framework for post-flop decisions that run close / similar EV
11:30 timestamp - KK in BU v BB SRP: 2nd FD coming in on the turn - now there will be 2x more flushes on the river >> our hand wants a smaller pot
13:20 timestamp : river decision-making framework based on how "tricky | straightwfd" is our opponent
vs UTG / tight opens:
- the reason why A9o, KTo, QTo are folding and hands likes 74s are calling - these are "pot odds calls"
- they can improve vs UTG open range, while hands like KTo are often dominated
- we want hands that can make str8s, flushes, trips
as we face looser opens - our suited region doesn't change much, but we start adding more offsuit Ax, and offsuit broadways
BB vs SB
- plus offsuit trashy hands = bluffing with our calling range once the calling range becomes very wide, we get to make these wide bluffs, avoiding the middle range
Integrate:
this would be a good turn raise vs guys who are not aware of theory - and just bet their medium strength hands with this middling size on the turn
they’re often bet /folding to pressure
as played villain’s raise size doesn’t feel big enough for a hand that wants to stack-off (33, 54s)
“the more you feel free to attack these sorts of spots, the more you’ll get a feeling for when ppl have it and when they don’t”
nugget: here I like checking back our TP - it’s like the opposite of low-mid stakes meta game, where ppl bet all their good hands.. having TP in our check-back range is very deceptive and as such opponents are more likely to make bigger mistakes compared to if i were to just stab the hand
just going to shove here w 25BB in the pot already. (got called by KTo !!)
nugget: the adjustment to someone who is too loose preflop is - adjust your 3bet range - no bluffs & wider for value
[“Mississipi bluff” - call call shove over his river bet]
Q77r 5 4
– Andy shouldn’t be aiming for a big pot here with KK (deep):
Andy has premium range - big pairs, overcards - doesn’t want to create a huge pot on this board
Patrik called pre, so he’s got more 7x
This is the difference between: Equity advantage X Nut advantage. Can see this in sims
Even if you have an equity advantage, you don’t pile in money
It’s Patrick’s responsibility to pile in money
cool spot breakdown article, with broadly applicable heuristics
https://blog.gtowizard.com/should-you-ever-bluff-with-a-pair/
can't cbet your whole range when already 3betting bullshit range ))
BvB, 22 in SB x thru to river 9T645, facing a small stab
- pocket pairs don't do well in these spots - both cards block his air. A2-high better than 22 here
BB v BTN - A6o - big (2x pot) x/r his B33 river bet on 856 5 K - turning hand into bluff after x/x, b/call, x/r - as we can credibly rep most all the nut combos
- flush coming in on the turn - generally good for the PF caller. the advantage of the 3bettor lies in the premium one pair region and high offsuit hands. 3bettor needs to slow down
- 4 flush board - now this is good for the offsuit heavy range - who's got more single diamond hands
[fine to slow play flop as long as we make up for it on later streets]
nuts/ nut blocker - you should seriously consider a geometric bet on the turn, no matter how large. If they fold, you probably wouldn’t have won much anyway. When the reward for winning the maximum is so large, that reward is worth pursuing at the expense of missing out on the occasional smaller bet from weaker hands.
The only time extreme, multi-street slow-playing really makes sense is when you block a lot of the hands likely to pay off large bets (e.g. top set blocking TP combos). In those cases, it makes sense to hunt for smaller game with less ambitious bets.
https://blog.gtowizard.com/maximizing-monsters-in-deep-stacked-scenarios/
GTO rarely uses a geometric strategy before the turn, as ranges are too close and equity too dynamic. Equities crystalize on later streets and ranges become more polar, incentivizing geometric bet sizes. When equities run much closer and can shift more easily on early streets, this is not the case.
- recognise close to 0 EV combos in your range - how removing just one combo of bluffs from vilain's range radically changes river calling strategy
- blockers are overrated (unless villain bluffing close to ideal freq)
- heuristics on why small bets on some wet boards are warranted
low board cbet sizing deep dive / heuristics
- "thick value" - we can size up if getting called by hands w low equity (AA on 732r, not AA on 754ss)
- can't bomb AK on A74r either - need to "babysit" lot of our 2nd pair type of hands (7x). can bomb AK4r - villain doesn't have as many outs vs our 2nd pair [in theory. in practice, at SS vs recs - can go full exploit vs recs and bloat the pot w AK when they'll have hard time folding TP]
