CONCEPT:
what I recommend really strongly, is just try:
try goin all-in as a bluff on the river
try doing it with value
try doing both. just do it a lot
then you won’t have to worry about “if I do this with a good hand people are always folding”. it just becomes part of your game.
might need to bite the bullet and fork out for GTOWiz Elite.. maybe start with one month of sub $150
200x faster solves: PIO vs GTOWizard + Automatic bet sizing
we open J7dd in CO, BU flats
- prefer cbet sizing on the smaller side, bc:
https://members.upswingpoker.com/lesson/?co=cybdlj&pl=pjxdxs&le=ltmhvq
this one was a banger. re-listen to the last 5 minutes for a "pressure on" framework heuristics
good way to practice: reverse the positions - what if your opponent shoved river in the spot you just played?
on the lookout for: "what have they done to remove nutted combinations from their range, while my range is still uncapped??
what is the objective of a x/r? what hand classes it punishes?
we get 3bet less, but also get to steal less, so our RFI range doesn't change much
we open in CO, BU rec calls:
Q93dd
CO wants to check a lot on this board.
BU should be checking back over 1/2 of their draws and pair - but recs are going to over-stab
Exploit: solver now starts checking 100% as CO vs BU over-stab
CO response once BU stabs:
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| vs 2.5x open - defending 40% vs 40% bu range open |
* all the different groups / hand classes have a different purpose vs our opponent's strategy
having 43 or A3, K3 on Q73 makes a difference:
- 43 wants to stab for protection, whereas A3, K3 prefers to check back as it dominates his check-range - if K rolls off on turn we will dominate his Ax, Kx
https://discord.com/channels/1169741710465703976/1420184151666987129/1421061253073469462
[also check out this vid he did for gtowiz]
Uri fires up solver and shows practical most effective way to "study"
Absolute fire, the post discussion too (see below the screenshot)
and the answer is not in frequencies of flushdraws barreling but more big-picture general: "barrel these handtypes, switch this one for that one, up frequency, lower sizing" etc.
BU v BB, cbet flop, turn middle card pairs:
3 high-level board archetypes:
Uri:
1/2 game , $20 splash pot
SB 3b vs CO
SB doesn't have T or lower offsuit combos in his range, whereas CO calling range is more low-card heavy
- 22 unlikely to win at SD; much less valuable than on e.g. 765 - opponent much more likely to hit the higher cards
(just need the best hand vs his range)
having the skill to increase your blue line where you think your hand is worth more than in theory
you can expand your overbet range, when your opponents playing too face-up with their range
esp. if you're perceived as aggresive reg - expanding your value overbet range will print - you'll get called more
some rules:
WORK "you will end up having to go thru the journey of finding the exact thresholds and the exact spots"
post in discord to talk about the spot you get into
- vs loose pasive rec in BB (under 3betting (premiums only), and over-defending by calling) - you can probably open something like 80% of hands (depending on the SB also)
- vs someone not 3betting enough (pretty common leak) - can open pretty much the same 55% range as the exploit BU range - i.e. anything playable
Bottom line: When you have the nuts, Overbetting makes you more money:
As your (value) hand gets further away from the nuts (i.e. you lose more and more the times you get called), overbetting makes less and less sense
For overbets to make sense, a large portion of our range should be the effective nuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRC3tjWZ8H8
Note taking
'getting used to the process of recognising mistakes, and then adjusting to them. and doing so with confidence, with preparation, where you play the hand, you see the SD and you're like: OK, this is the note i'm taking, these are the adjustments i'm making.'
1. Passive in small pots (doesn't fight for it)
.. how drastically you can adjust your range once you spot this leak... (defending in BB vs someone not fighting for small pots).. potentially any 2 cards.. however, if he sees you doing that he might change his strat.. so doing it with "reasonable looking hands" (most suited stuff looks ok)
insanely printing lines .. guy is not gonna call vs overbet in this small pot - he's not interested .. whenever he checks back you hit him with 2x pot with no equity
.. be creative with how far you want to push it, experiment
2. Calling station in big pots. doesn't know theory?
- there is a ton of stuff you can do and extrapolate when you see that (i.e. he's not very good player, will be missing a lot of lines, bet sizes, will have a lot of the classic leaks)
3. Calls c-bets too wide
calling low PP vs 3bet ip, 100bb deep
-> 0 EV ish play, changes if we have an edge on opponent.
- calling 33 in BU v BB 3bet, flop comes KT8r - fine to float vs B33, with the intention of bluffing when checked to. (not trying to show down 33).
- no interaction with the board, doesn't block his folding range - 99, JJ, AJ,,
my first breakthrough as a player came, when i realised i can just mess with ppl - on certain boards, i could tell a story that would make all of your range bluff-catchers.
.. capped range. 2012 if someone had a capped range and you put your stack in, he'd just fold.
it got so extreme - for ex: UTG opened, I flat BU, board came 558 (ppl were not opening 65s, 54s) - i was in a frame of mind of "am calling your first two bets and shoving over your third one, and you're never calling me with anything"
once i realised i can fuck with ppl, my winrate got really high really fast. I started moving up stakes.
https://members.upswingpoker.com/courses/drills-preflop-ranges/lessons/drilling-with-lucid-poker/
somehow skipped this vid
3:00 timestamp : how close in EV lot of the post-flop actions run (!)
** EV loss is so tiny - any other factor (dynamics / image / player you feel (or not feel) comfortable playing against) easily outweighs it
6:20 timestamp : framework for post-flop decisions that run close / similar EV
11:30 timestamp - KK in BU v BB SRP: 2nd FD coming in on the turn - now there will be 2x more flushes on the river >> our hand wants a smaller pot
13:20 timestamp : river decision-making framework based on how "tricky | straightwfd" is our opponent
vs UTG / tight opens:
- the reason why A9o, KTo, QTo are folding and hands likes 74s are calling - these are "pot odds calls"
- they can improve vs UTG open range, while hands like KTo are often dominated
- we want hands that can make str8s, flushes, trips
as we face looser opens - our suited region doesn't change much, but we start adding more offsuit Ax, and offsuit broadways
BB vs SB
- plus offsuit trashy hands = bluffing with our calling range once the calling range becomes very wide, we get to make these wide bluffs, avoiding the middle range
< link >
like this dude's style - in a similar camp as Pr0digy:
- playing with intensity - trying to soak up every little piece of info we can pick up at the table (SS players give off a lot - they're not deceptive / balanced enough)
- fishing for reads:
induce them to give off info by : small bets, checks, ..
- timing tells (betting small on a low wet board, watching if he snap-calls)
- should have everyone colour coded playing in these games, notes on timing tells, etc
- watch your customers intently (interesting hands you're not involved in etc.) the more you do itm the better you become at it, start noticing patterns etc.
calls 2 small bets ip, then shoves river for 1x pot when checked to.. (NOT strong story / OK runout & blockers)
timing & bet size manipulation exploit
and here / cool hand & explain /
** cbet small on low dynamic board - if he snap calls - not too many strong hands - we can run multi street bluff **
widening PF 3bet range IP vs high VPIP (consider SPR (stack / open size)
uses 50% raise pf for 3bet sizing
"the snap-check was not built to face more than 2x the pot"
"sometimes you need to care less about how good your story is, and more about how much you can bully them into folding"
"am looking for exploits, but if i can't pick up anything i am just trying to play good solid poker"
https://youtu.be/L3pp75u1I90?si=inaGjcI8JCvUC_1d
#1 call wider
#2 check / raise more
#3 probe river more aggressively
Integrate:
this would be a good turn raise vs guys who are not aware of theory - and just bet their medium strength hands with this middling size on the turn
they’re often bet /folding to pressure
as played villain’s raise size doesn’t feel big enough for a hand that wants to stack-off (33, 54s)
“the more you feel free to attack these sorts of spots, the more you’ll get a feeling for when ppl have it and when they don’t”
nugget: here I like checking back our TP - it’s like the opposite of low-mid stakes meta game, where ppl bet all their good hands.. having TP in our check-back range is very deceptive and as such opponents are more likely to make bigger mistakes compared to if i were to just stab the hand
just going to shove here w 25BB in the pot already. (got called by KTo !!)
nugget: the adjustment to someone who is too loose preflop is - adjust your 3bet range - no bluffs & wider for value
i have one colour for
- tight,
- 1 for fish,
- 1 for whale,
- one for normal reg,
- one for aggro reg
= 5 colours overall
-> just check everything!
it's a strategy that a lot of High stakes regs are using!
in x/x lines, oop overpairs will be in much better shape
[“Mississipi bluff” - call call shove over his river bet]
Q77r 5 4
– Andy shouldn’t be aiming for a big pot here with KK (deep):
Andy has premium range - big pairs, overcards - doesn’t want to create a huge pot on this board
Patrik called pre, so he’s got more 7x
This is the difference between: Equity advantage X Nut advantage. Can see this in sims
Even if you have an equity advantage, you don’t pile in money
It’s Patrick’s responsibility to pile in money
